Members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints believe in polygamy. This group of people live in a large ranch in Eldorado , Texas. Recently, a man was accused of raping a 15 year old. Reports of child abuse, marriage between young women and older men, rape, etc. have prompted the police to raid the ranch. So far, 401 children and 133 women are in shelter.
This group’s polygamy is based on their religion. Do you believe that in America, we have the right to interfere with another group’s religious beliefs? Polygamy is illegal in America. What about the marriage between a minor and older man?
Give your opinion. Read the story at: http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/07/texas.ranch/index.html
Tuesday, April 8, 2008
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Hello all of you guys!! Wow, I could not bieleve about this Fundamentalist Church, and that is not correctly with men that whom are raping with young girls, It is real bad things to do, but I assuming that their bieleve about marriages with young females. I am 100 percentings disagree with that. It's America and I think they should have to follow the laws and I want an America stopped that because it is not correctly things to do that, I think all young females are afraid to getting hurts, and abused by 50 years old males. I do know that a big mistake things to do that, so I knew that little girls are afraid and wont admitted, but I am glad that a 16 years old female had begun reported to police officers and told them about this. Then police officers have a right to go in, so the officers took all kids out of this places and might be able to go to FOSTER home to have false parents.
I am strong DISAREE with this, A HUGE MISTAKE things to do.
Have a nice day. See ya all.
This shocking Texas story is a reminder that we as a society need to be more vigilant about noticing signs of child abuse and taking action immediately. One detection network that really needs strengthening is our schoolteachers. Many teachers may notice signs of abuse -- which are not necessarily physical -- but then they don't know how to talk to the student about it. So the abuse goes unreported. There's a new online role-playing course that lets teachers practice a conversation with a possible child abuse victim, getting expert feedback after every choice. (It was co-written by a former Minnesota police detective.) There's a free version and a CEU-credit version for teachers. Hopefully it'll help teachers to detect child abuse -- such as in this Texas sect -- much more effectively.
Hey!!! I AM VERY DISAGREE! 1,00000%
I never heard my life about the Fundamentalish Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints believe in polygamy. I'm very, very agaisnt Fundamentalish religious because that too many one person sex many wife. Then womens born more many children. Then children must same group family cause born new baby will be disable because same blood and not good ideas! Also, 50 year old men want marry young girls about 15 year old. My opion is she have decide own marry. I didn't like he did forus to marry to her. That very, very, very, very gross!!! I am wish the Fundamentalist Church not there or they didn't set-up. Damn! Also, I am very glad that a 16 years old female did tell to police, she had begun reported to police officers and told them about this. That very save her's life and gross big family.
Im agree with madkml. I can't believe that. The old man is 50 year old!! He raped with many Polyagmy ladies. That crazy and big mistake. I cant believe do that many 133 women and 401 children. I very carzy and stupid the old man did raped with women. My opinion is I need to the America can stop the other gruop's religious. They dont care can invide in the group. I think america not allowed the old man 50 cant date with teenager girl and cant marriage with her. But it possbile america can stop in the other Group's religious.
I am disagree. The man force marry many women for an underage and over age. I can't imagie that one man can marry for many marriage with 133 womens. I not like that the man force sex with many many women. That is not good. I left his beleive and some of women believe for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints believe in polygamy.
That is break-law for many marry and American only one marry but he marry too many women. Also I not like that 401 childrens have washbrain. That lots work and watch and care of 401 children.
He many sex with an underage and over age. He was prison reason that he sex abuse.. When he free out of the jail and he still sex abuse. That is so terrible!
I really feel so bad of them but not only man!
Well... WOW!!! o_O My god, many more children form Texas. That this group's polgamy but, how 401 children born from 133 women but, I don't know, maybe if Jesus Christ for give make more many babies??? Maybe I don't think, if 133 men with sex 133 women before men with marriage which old or young women of but, polygamy was illegal in America but, you know where from Iran can with man's polygamy...
Wow I am shock about this because I could not believe it about fundamentalist church and that is not right because 50years olds man try rape 16 years old that is so stupid. That is illegal because we are america and we supposed to be follow the law because we want people be safe and making right choice. the religion talk about 1800. we are not stupid talk about religion right now. If people keep talk about this than people will going to jail anyway if you making mistake.
Im glad 16years old report the cops because many people need to be safe.
I'm disagree polygamy because men isn't fair for women. Only men can marry any women and women have to respect to her a husband. Women can't marry any men but only one husband. Warren Steed Jeffs was abuse and rape young girl, she was only 14 years old. He was out of jail then sign the form for promise to not rape or abuse women or hide age. But he was break the laws that he did to their children and wives. He have 133 wives and 401 children, and he didn't right for God. It's obvisously, he isn't follow funamentalist and he likes to enjoy with women and children like abuse and rape. I think, Polygamy allow in america but shouldn't too much wives and children also have to follow laws.
I wonder, 133 women should defeat Warren Steed Jeffs when he abuse them or rape their children and them. Because 133 women are many and a man. Women shouldn't scared of him.
133 women can together to have sex? 401 children watch their own mothers to have sex with Warren Steed Jeffs?
Jeez, what in the hell is going on in this world. I apologize for the language I just said, but when I read the Fundamentalist Church explanation, it really made me very mad. Sometime, you just have to let it out, even throught you don't mean it. Anyway,according to this subject, I can't even believe that the young girls were being rape. I mean; why in the world was "raped" came up to this humanity. It's not even right. Another thing I didn't like was a minor marrying an older person. Not just old men whom marry younger girl. Older women also married younger boys. In American, I believe a congress should make a new law, a law whether a man or a woman wants to get married must be the same age, because with all this conflict I'm hearing is just kind of mess up. Oh, the last thing I didn't forget, child abused. This is the part I really hate about. Many parent in world are abusing their own kids. The last report on the news I heard about was a 4 years old female, who wore a electric collar, which is for dog training. The child died from something with the nerve probelm. The parent were sent to prison for life. I was very glad about that and of course, very sad about what happen to the little girl. If parent do not want to care of their child, then I believe they should put them in a foster home. Because with all this child abusing, it just make sick and an awful feeling, a feeling that a knife coming out of your heart. In American,it can never give you good a better life, even if you think it is.
I agree with Charlie. Mostly older people do abused young girls and children. They are thrilled for young girl virgina. Young girl probably virgin that makes older men thrilled. I think man want to marry many woman to get many sex. I also believe that, and to enjoy it. In america, we shouldn't have that. We should have strict law for people, likewise charlie said. I hate see minor marrying older man because I know older man taking advangate of it. Geez, what the hell wrong with the world?!
I actually disagree that. It all is not correctly for Men marry with many woman. The law is against that whos marry that many woman, there sound like cheating with many woman, which make one of many woman marry that one man.. Many woman thinking that, One man trying raping many young girls. that is not correctly.. Plus I am agree with MADKML. I really shocked that, That's 50 year old man marry with 16 year old girl... There should be huge mistake and against the law break.. there should be 18 year old girl or boy marry anyone. that what i thinkin.
I disagree with this. Man cant get polygamying because United States forbid it. United State's law must marry one person. Man have many wife. United States have rights to enter and arrest that man. because the man is on United States. The 16year old have rights to call. The man who marry that girl, he abused her. 16 year old girl is too young to marry the older man. It consider as rape.
That is awful and i feel so bad. I heard about them a lot. That is make me so sick. But allow religious for polygamy. because of church and goverment is different. Only one thing is abuse child. I dont like this. that is not allow abuse could efficet their children bad experince for their past. And should not marriage for who minor. because minor are still too young and not their decided yet. So, my opinion is law protect for children who minor. If who over 18 age then their decdied to marry or whatever they want.
i think it right for america to arrest the man who assault the 150 women in texas with a lot childrens. so i am disagree with that kind of church. and i am glad that police arrest him! so 50 years old man supposed not marriage or sex with 15 year old women!!! thats wrong!!! so have a great day!!!
Hello,
My opinion is, America can stop the religion, if this religion was very abusive, oppressive. This religion have no right to be abusive and oppresive. But if this religion show no adusive or oppressive, then america have no rights to stop this religion.
My opinion about older man marry with minor. I think it was very wrong. But if this minor person want to. Then it is their decided. But this issues, this 50 years old man may forced this minor woman to marry him. No prove, but I think about marry with minor is wrong. But if agreed to do, then fine..
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-AJR
I reserve the right to worship where, what, and who I may, and yes, I believe that religious freedoms should be protected. However, I do not believe that religion should infringe upon a persons human rights. If a young girl is forced into a polygamist marriage, she unknowingly, and many times unwillingly, gives up her freedoms. Religion is suppose to be a set of beliefs, rites, and celebrations that focus on a supreme being. I believe that polygamy is a form of enslavement, and if you are born into it, you can never leave.
I'm surprise that he trying to be rape with 15 year old girl but it's illegeal and they would to be arrested Dave to put in the prison for forever until deaf or older. The news sends to the world about fundamentalist church and polygamy. He had a many wives and children but it was many children about 401 but I'm shocked. Well, I'm doing belive that he was marry with young girl but the girls was young to marry. I wish he put in prison. The Americans have to law to be marry about 18 year old.
OH MY GOODNESS!! I am Totally disagree like UNLIMITED PERCENT! I can't believe that Fundamentalist Church support to allow to marry many woman (Polygamy). I think that Fundamentalist should follow the Gonvernment's Law is "No sexual abuse" but, Fundamentalist do a sexual abuse I think (Gonvern's Soilder) invader and stop them, if they not sexual abuse depend with Gonvernment's decision what they (Gonvernment's order to soilder) will do. I feel like I am unlimited feel pity to female and young girl to have baby I think it not right to do that!! 50 years old man was in prisoner last year and now he do that again I think he should stay in prisoner for LIFE (For Sexual abuse!)!!! If Texas are in America's Land and they should follow the Law of America!!
I AM VERY DISAGREE WITH THAT BECASUES IT IS ILLEGAL IN U.S.A. Oh, My God, I am shock that 50 years old man have many wives as 60 plus teenager girl plus 401 childrens. That is so crazy choice. But most woman say that that man force them and they admit that they do brainwashing because that man say if they tell to other people then he will kill them and children. Knock on Wood. I mostly agree with 3V1LJOK3R because he say he not feel that right that women have a 4o1 babies. Yuck. I suggest that Governor stop that for Polygamy. It is against laws. But that their belief. I dont know if it is true. I suggest that Governor to protect childrens and stop man to sexual abuse with teenager girl.
This comment is my opinion, words by my heart, when I look around the world, nothing is the same, people become mentally, not well expose, people become violent, when they know its illegal but they find it very plesant, people become killer, they don't have a heart.
For what happened to those 133 womens and 401 children, I want to say they are BRAVE, much bravier than us, ask yourself, WILL I SURVIVE YEARS AND YEARS OF ABUSIVE AND FORCE OF SEX TO HAVE MORE CHILDREN, my answer is no. Why? because, I never feel I should respect a person when they don't respect me, that man 50 years old MAN took advantage of those young girls and really destroyed their lives, that man has no idea how much nighmares he putted them through, It will never be easy to make them feel like they are safe
that man is MENTALLY.
Everytime I hear news like this, like parents hurt their child cause death, parents poinsion their food and they die, drown thier kids, kidnap kids, really, world needs wise up and world needs more control, more consquence toward to their action. Prison teaches them nothing but fun, they don't care if they are lock up, atleast still watch t.v. still talking to someone, still have bed, still have 3 meal, they should work more harder to earn the meals, the bed, the t.v., why? I believe people who harm others should face worse nighmare too, make them learn, and feel impaction.
Most people don't realize how other people feel. What I do? I tell others to think first how would I feel if they did that to me, if i dislike then don't do that to them.
It just make me so angry when i see this kind of news, those innocent girls and children suffer for years and now they are free, and well taken care of, i hope that man deserve a HORRIBLE CONSQUENCE he doesn't deserve to live at all.
USA have rights to help others, sometimes religion can be wayyy too violent, or way to imaginitive, I know GOD dislike this, GOD didn't create this kind of religion of holding those group.
This is really sad. But now we all must show positive to those people make them feel free, its not easy to overcome a fear, I don't know how long this will take them to cure their fear.
ABUSE AND RAPE REALLY HAVE TO EXISIT IN THIS WORLD?!?! I mean, come on - it doesnt sound nor look fun to do. They're practically ruining the victim's lives and their reputation.
I am glad that polygram is illegal in America - but it should be illegal EVERYWHERE in this world, no doubt abt it! Everyone in this world is a HUMAN BEING - whether we are good person or bad person, they still have a LIFE inside of themselves.
Minor marrying older man isnt right to me, but at the same time - everyone has their own beliefs and perspective and I cannot interferre what decision they make.. If a minor is happy with it, then she can go with the flow.
But what's happening in the world today with abuse and rapes is damn non-sense. (pardon me) but it pisses me off so bad inside, it makes me want to do something for the people who were treated badly -- it's really devestating to watch innocent ppl's lives burden. it hurts alot, and basically no-one really is supporting the idea of making it illegal in the entire world. and that is just tooo sad!
- how dare a abuser/raper ruin some1's lives and they can live THEIRS happily ever after?! - tht's really really F'ed up!!
datz my opinion
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